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Discover the 4 things you need to master to create an international speaking business with master presenter, Andrew Eggelton.

In this episode, I’m joined by return guest and personal friend, Andrew Eggelton. We dive into his tips for improving your public speaking so you can grow your business.

We discuss:

  • What inspired him to create his own unique methodology
  • Public speaking vs public feeling
  • Creating congruency between who you are on stage and off stage
  • Letting go of our perceptions of what we think we should look like on stage
  • Presenting from the heart-brain and not your brain
  • Frameworks can give you a state of flow and pure authenticity
  • The power of believing what you say
  • Breaking habits and expanding and how it helps you grow your speaking business.
  • The value of the question “in one year’s time when I’m already in my greatness, how do I act or react right now?”
  • And more.

 

More about Andrew Eggelton and his International Speaking Business

With 26 years of experience in front of and behind the camera on Stage, TV and Film, Andrew Eggelton has created a style of presenting that’s taking the world by storm. His style sees presenters effectively un-learning what they’ve been taught previously and instead, replacing that with a style that feels effortless and an extension of who they really are.

Andrew Eggelton’s methodology was created out of his desire to connect with his audience in a way that wasn’t forced, wasn’t a performance, and they could see and feel in his words the essence of who he is.

It allows a presenter to stand out by being the fullest expression of who they are every time they speak; their words connecting with their audience’s heart and soul.

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TRANSCRIPT:

 

Renée Hasseldine:

Welcome back to another episode of Leveraged and Loving it. Back on the show today, Andrew Eggelton.

Andrew Eggelton:

It feels like it’s been too long.

Renée Hasseldine:

It’s been way, way, way too long. Way too long. I feel like you went from being a regular to like where did he go?

Andrew Eggelton:

I did, I disappeared. I decided that Melbourne winter was not for me and I would disappear for four to five, six months a year.

Renée Hasseldine:

I’m glad it was the Melbourne winter. I won’t take it personally then.

Andrew Eggelton:

No, it wasn’t personal.

Renée Hasseldine:

I’m glad it wasn’t personal. All right, so, let’s catch up the audience. So, for those of you who haven’t come across Andrew before, where have you been? But he runs an international speaking business and mentors presenters on how to do it better, but also how to take it global, right?

Andrew Eggelton:

Mm-hmm (affirmative) yep. Had to create an international speaking business and do it with a style that stands out if honestly, it’s not the cookie cutter approach. It’s using a methodology that I created actually a little bit. You got me started on that root of the methodologies and the steps. It was, you are the reason I got the confidence to step up and move into Melbourne and then from Melbourne next I was going around the world.

Renée Hasseldine:

So, you did say you did kind of mention one of my kind of hot buttons. You mentioned a methodology. Tell us about your unique methodology.

Andrew Eggelton:

When I used to train, just to go to a bit of a frame up. When I used to present on TV or on stage, there was always this feeling that it wasn’t the way that I wanted to feel, when I was presenting. It was really based on the technical, where do you stand? What are you doing with your arms? This is how you want to package story. Here’s how you tell stories to get people to connect with you. And it never felt right. So no matter where I travelled throughout the world, it’d be at Los Angeles or Australia or London to train under what was considered the best presenting trainers. I always felt like I could do better, but I didn’t know how. If that that makes sense.

Andrew Eggelton:

I didn’t know what that meant, but I knew I could do better. So, as I worked and started to take the time out to discover how I wanted to see it done and how I want… the key point is here, how I wanted to feel when I was doing it. I wanted a depth of connection that I wasn’t getting under other trainers. I wanted to be able to hold an audience without having to speak. So, it was less about the trouble with public speaking is the word speaking is misleading because it’s, and I know this can get you in trouble, but it’s actually public feeling. That’s public feeling.

Renée Hasseldine:

Controversial.

Andrew Eggelton:

It is the-

Renée Hasseldine:

Please tell me there are not a whole lot of law suits coming here Egg.

Andrew Eggelton:

… Listen, I’m safe. You’re safe. It’s okay. That’s okay .So, for me it was thinking.

Renée Hasseldine:

Keeping your hands to yourself let’s just clarify that.

Andrew Eggelton:

Totally really. I’m on stage the rest of the audiences is not within touch.

Renée Hasseldine:

Personal space is protected.

Andrew Eggelton:

Personal space paramount, but it was about connecting through a feeling. Then being able to see and feel you as soon as you walked on the stage. Because there was a congruency between who you were offstage and who you were onstage as the same person. Okay. So, this took me a long time to discover the first piece of methodology. How do you teach someone to just be you?

The hardest and the worst advice you can give somebody. Just be you. What does it mean? We’re infinite, right? We all agree that we’re tapped into the same thing. We’re infinite beings. So, how do you just be you what part? And I realised what I wanted was for that no matter how someone was feeling, whatever shade that they were in, that was your gift to begin with. So, what happens when people go on stages, they present. So they’ve become the character to have a presenter, right? They start performing instead of-

Renée Hasseldine:

That’s what I used to do before I met you.

Andrew Eggelton:

…. Yeah. Yeah, you did.

Renée Hasseldine:

I kind of did it a little bit then before I hit record too. And I laughed at myself because I’m like, that’s what he tells me not to do.

Andrew Eggelton:

I wanted to see effortlessness, effortless. I wanted to see this congruency where if you were world-class offstage, then all you had to do is walk on stage and deliver your knowledge. So, the first piece I realised was don’t change state. The first step was just no change of state. It doesn’t mean no change of how you’re looking. It’s not appearance. It is what is the state that you’re in.

If you’re feeling melancholic, then come from that space with a shade of you and deliver your content from that. It will give it a different feeling. Plus it will be congruent with you instead of wearing the mask, which is I need to, our perceptional fantasy of what we’re meant to look like as our brains or what a presenter looks like or professional presenter looks like is always a fantasy. It’s a perception or a fantasy.

Renée Hasseldine:

I have a great fantasy of what I look like on stage.

Andrew Eggelton:

I haven’t seen you in ages. I have to get a sneak preview.

Renée Hasseldine:

I wonder how close to the reality is to my fantasy in this case.

Andrew Eggelton:

What if there’s any congruency actually, or has he been doing this in a while now?

Renée Hasseldine:

Just a little while, yeah.

Andrew Eggelton:

Yeah, so that no change of state was a game changer for people. The pressure is now off. No performance required. Who you were on the side of the stage is who you will walk out or as and deliver from there and people were even, “What if he had a bad day?” It’s like we know you don’t tell your audience that stuff. You’re a professional. You walk out and you hold that space and you then work moment to moment, moment to moment. As soon as you walk out and you try to act bigger or hyped up and you’re not hyped up and it’s a mask, your audience feels like a cringe or there’s something missing or not right for them, they don’t know what but it’s that and from no change of state, we then get out of the technical.

The technical is anything that comes from the brain. The brain is the current knowledge base, right? The current knowledge base. This is what I know and this is what I can deliver. That’s my fail safe. If I forget everything on stage, I can always go back to my wealth of knowledge that I have in my head. What I want from people is to be able to present from the heart-brain. The heart-brain being I used to be heart and not as heart-brain.

The other powerful brain which actually connects us to the energy and my favourite line is like when you are able to become a conduit for infinite wisdom. When onstage we have our topic, we have our points that we’re going to hit so we know where we’re going. We’ve got a framework. This is not free styling, but then we can explore the topic on stage from the shade of what we’re feeling, which will make it completely different than it was the day before or an hour before.

So, then when we’re in the heart-brain, we will find often in that space in the heart-brain that we come up with words and ideas and concepts on steps that we never even knew that we knew. Does that make sense? When you can actually hear it, you’re doing a live or you’re mentoring on online or you’re on stage and you’re going in the back of your head. You can actually hear yourself going, ” Oh my God, this is good.”

Renée Hasseldine:

I hope someone’s recording this.

Andrew Eggelton:

Oh my God, this is really good and I’ve got used to, on my Facebook lives actually telling the audience I’m like, that was really good, but what I’m really doing is I’m marking it for myself to come back and explore later.

Renée Hasseldine:

Yes, yes, yes. And I can I just add to that, because this really plays in nicely to when you’ve got a signature system created, when you’ve got your unique methodology extracted and then your whole business is based on that. I came across this when I was doing my full national tours a year and so I’d be doing like I’d be saying the same content, the structure of every presentation was the same like 50 or more times a year right? It probably more like a hundred times a year I’d be saying the same content. But the reason it stayed fresh for me was the signature system was like the spine of it.

Andrew Eggelton:

The framework.

Renée Hasseldine:

That’s the framework. But then when I got up on stage every time it was, I don’t know which stories will come out because I totally listened to you, see.

Andrew Eggelton:

I see love, amazing.

Renée Hasseldine:

Have you know, I did listen to you. I do, I just feel like what story am I going to tell today and I don’t know what’s going to come out until it comes out. I just like flick onto the next part of the system of the frame as the framework. And I go,” Oh, ah.” And recently I told a story about going to Italy that I’d never told before. Even Stevie after hearing me do this content hundreds of times, he’s like, “New story.” Like ” Yeah, I know, how cool is that.”

And it just happens. I never know what’s going to come and that’s, I am not, I can’t deal with repetition. I have very low tolerance for repetition. And so for me as someone who likes things to be different all the time, that’s the way I deal with the constant framework of a signature system is I just like surprise myself.

Andrew Eggelton:

Yeah, yeah. This is when we can explore and when you’re in that state of, I call this flow or when just something like this happened on stage and it was like you become a conduit for infinite wisdom and I’m going, “Oh my God, that sounds so good. Let’s not tell them I just made that up.” So, you become a conduit for infinite wisdom. When you’re doing that, the words and ideas and concepts are coming from a place where I call pure authenticity.

When you’re in that state of flow, you’re not worried about, you’re not thinking about how you look, you’re not thinking about, do I look smart right now? You just know, and for me this is the place of pure authenticity. No, looking at yourself, listening to your voice, it’s just happening in that place. And when the words come from this place, when you get used to just choosing the right words that articulate the feeling is happening in your heart-brain, around your topic, these words have your weight attached to them.

Their your essence, this is what actually connects with your audience. Your words from here are the vibration of your greatness.

Renée Hasseldine:

Do you want to say that again?

Andrew Eggelton:

Yeah, the words from here are the vibration of your greatness.

Renée Hasseldine:

Nice.

Andrew Eggelton:

This is when you’re tapping into the greatness, you’re in that space and your audience is witnessed to something completely unique and they can tell that. They might not go, “He’s never, or she’s never said that before.” But they’re feeling the words, especially when you get used to using a pace that allows the words to sit. Each time you use those words, the audience get to sit on the sentence or the word.

Renée Hasseldine:

Yeah. I’m a still a working progress on the speed.

Andrew Eggelton:

I don’t know if you’ll ever get there or not.

Renée Hasseldine:

I just am who I am. I’m fast. Bam bam, thank you ma’am. I’m not here for long time only for good time baby.

Andrew Eggelton:               I

‘ve got another client who speaks faster and way more, and I’ve just got to a point of this isn’t going to stop now I just have to give. I just have work on the other stuff because this is, when they get into that space, it just goes and goes and goes.

Renée Hasseldine:

That is my flow. My flow is like that’s my style is like, yep. That’s unfortunately, that’s just the way I am dude.

Andrew Eggelton:

That’s all good. So, when then your, this place is happening. These words are coming from your greatness. When you get these words, sentences or ideas or concepts and then take those or I teach people to take those ideas and then deconstruct them and flash them out. Really flash them out and make that so they can articulate it properly and they make that part of their training and part of their speaking.

So, the more time that goes and the more time they get into that place of flow, the more the content comes from a really unique perspective. Instead of repeating the same stuff. My workshops change literally from one the start of the tour to the end of the tour everything changes. Because in each workshop, I’m discovering new stuff that I get excited about and then on the plane I’m recreating it and then my assistant is doing the PowerPoint or I’m doing it myself because I don’t have time.

Then I’m using this new information and teachings in my next workshop. Makes sense. So, it’s constantly evolving. Each layer I’m going down is creating a more unique perspective and this is how I look at it, which is pretty sexy I think. I think of each layer or each of those little nuggets that come out and you go, “Oh my God, that’s a cool word or concept or idea,” as a breadcrumb for my future self.

If I don’t pick that up, my future self is instantly going,” Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I’m giving you these. How good that it feel when you see that or felt it.” And I’m like, “That felt pretty damn good.” That’s who’s going, I’m giving you everything here. You need to take this opportunity. So, the more you get down the layers, the more unique, but it seems the crazy the ideas because as you’re going down those layers you’re getting more closer to your deepest purpose or the greatest expression of who you are. I know this gets deeper tonight. Are you following?

Renée Hasseldine:

Yes I am. I am. And I just think the more I just tune into who I am, the ladder I get.

Andrew Eggelton:

When you’re turning that frequency up, the more you turn to who you are, the more you. That makes sense to me.

Renée Hasseldine:

And I don’t put this on for you Egg.

Andrew Eggelton:

That makes sense, but you see how, this is just my unique perspective, but it’s the way I like to look at it. So, at the moment, a key here is, go back to step two. The key here to be able to get into this place of flow, become a conduit for infinite wisdom. Let’s use time and space and I’ll explain. Time is this goes back to presenting as a feeling, not just to doing well, not just speaking.

You have to take the time to choose the next right word, just choose not to fill the empty space through fear or news or because you’ve been told that you have to speak because you’re a public speaker. But you’re allowed to occupy that time on stage or on a Facebook live for when you’re training and let there be silence and comfortable in that silence while you move through the comfortable to the uncomfortable to the comfortable again when you can start speaking what you really want to say. So, you get used to speaking less. Space is just what I call where those words and ideas and concepts…

Renée Hasseldine:

Yeah. I remember you said something to me, years ago now, around this, which helped me to kind of let go of the… It’s kind of placed a point in one entry there because it was not changing your state and also kind of being more in flow. The thing that you said that helped me kind of let go of really being nervous about being on stage and I don’t even think and this kind of came from doing lots of national tours as well.

But I was thinking about this frame that you gave me was just to think of like when you go on stage, it’s just a conversation. It’s still having a conversation and it just so happens that you’re having a conversation with each person in the room. Like they should be no difference to how I have a conversation with like you today, right now to if I’m standing on stage like that’s the exactly the same Renee. And it’s kind of good because I get the practise of doing the podcasts, speaking to someone one on one. I don’t think, we can’t call speaking to my husband and my children too much practise. So, you probably don’t want me to do that.

Then, the national tours and stuff, but I don’t know, I just, because the people who I’m interviewing on my podcast, the same audience, usually that is when I’m on stage. It’s like, well, I’m just having a conversation with all of us. So, happens that I’m standing up at this point and you’re sitting down usually. But it doesn’t really matter. I used to actually, I stand up when I’m recording my podcast. I’ve got a standing desk now I stand. So, it’s same look at that. I stand, I talk, do a little dance.

Andrew Eggelton:

And that’s the key that’s the congruency. That’s the congruency. When I teach in London, they get exactly who they’ve seen and the beautiful thing is in, there’s not pressure anymore. If you’re feeling… This takes away the pressure of, I better be in a good mood that day because this is a big gig. I’m speaking to 300 people in London. I better be on. But you’re on all know the time. All you have to do is walk.

Renée Hasseldine:

Because all I need to be is vague. Yeah, exactly. It’s like I’m just getting out talking the way I talk every day. It’s no different just a different location.

Andrew Eggelton:

Now, if you’re feeling low energy, you come from there. But if you’re speaking to 300 people, that low energy is going to move from work moment to moment to moment where it goes into something different anyway. You can’t be there.

Renée Hasseldine:

You feed off the audience and they eventually kind of fill you up a bit.

Andrew Eggelton:

Yeah, they do. Yeah.

Renée Hasseldine:

Not, not sorry to everyone who’s energy I’ve sucked out while I was.

Andrew Eggelton:

Time, when you’re doing it properly, time should just disappear. Like the audience should always go, “Oh my God, is it, are we finished already? It can’t be right.” Five hours, 10 hours or two days or a retreat should just disappear. Disappear. And an hour’s talks should just fly. They should never ever be looking at their watches. They should be engaged and engrossed in every single thing and this is a cool part. Your sang lists. Yes, sang lists. There’s so much more silence. But it is though there’s so much beauty in the silence.

Renée Hasseldine:

I feel like this silence one is the one work on forever. I’m not usually a slow learner, but that’s my slow learner. That’s my slower learner pace.

Andrew Eggelton:

Just slow burner on there, that’s okay.

Renée Hasseldine:

I’m a slower burner, yeah.

Andrew Eggelton:

So, that was step one and two. Then three is embodying. I remember, this is where I learned this. We were on the business playroom and Andrew Griffiths was beside us and we kind of speak on the same thing, but different public speaking. When I was listening to Andrew, I was going, “Oh yeah, I really believe him.” Yep. This big baritone voice and Andrew, I don’t, I don’t know. I don’t want to get myself in trouble here but I guess Andrew might be 15 years older than me. Maybe, I don’t know.

Renée Hasseldine:

He’s not that many years older than you.

Andrew Eggelton:

He’s isn’t he? Anyway, as I said, I don’t to give myself trouble. Sorry Andrew, but let’s just put it, make believe it’s 10 or 15 years older than me. Okay. That doesn’t matter. What was happening was that when he spoke I believed him. And then when I spoke it was like I was a little boy and it just kind of really amused me. I remember watching the edit and just going, I need to know what is happening here. So I actually did a zoom call with Andrew that was so short because it was just my simple question. I mean Andrew what’s the difference between you when you’re my age and you now. And he said it simple. I just believe what I say now. And I was like, “Wow, I’m not going to wait 10 years for this to happen. How do I make that happen now?

I realised I just had to start embodying all the words. I had to start owning. I had to own my IP, own what I was saying. If I seen it, I owned it. I’m the boss of those words, they’re mine. I’m giving them the texture. They got my essence, my everything attached to them. And hoping in the way that I was holding myself on stage two.

I started holding myself more square and because I talk about congruency, it wasn’t just like doing that on stage. I started doing that offstage, so it became my normal. I started embodying who I was and what I was doing. I took about two, three months and then when I went out on tour afterwards, every single workshop, someone would come back and say, “You’re like so different now. It’s like you believe what you’re saying.” It was crazy.

Renée Hasseldine:

That was crazy. I actually remember after that episode, I remember you saying to me, pretty much to what you just said then. I remember you’re kind of, you were in awe of that whole thing and I remember debriefing with you after the episode and just going, I remember how excited you were which was like.

Andrew Eggelton:

Then it became the methodology. It was, I want to teach people this. Let’s speed that process up like what was ingredients? He just believes, okay, what does, how do I, I can’t tell people to believe what you’re saying. It’s like, let’s embody it. I own this, I own these words. I chose these words. So, believe them because at the end of the day, your audience is looking for certainty. They want to know that you believe yourself.

Renée Hasseldine:

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Now, we should just like give a shout out to the business playroom. We recorded two seasons ago and so if you want to go back and look at what we used to look like a couple of years ago and laugh at kind of how many mistakes we make, you can go back and check out the business playroom. We’ll put a link in the show notes. Maybe we should see if we can find that episode with Andrew Griffiths as well so that they can see the difference.

Andrew Eggelton:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Amazing. It was a big, it was a really nice turning point.

Renée Hasseldine:

It was, I think, I think those two seasons together were a good big turning point.

Andrew Eggelton:

Yeah, they were. Yeah. This coincided with us meeting each other as well, bouncing off and that nice little platform, what we, it was meant to be.

Renée Hasseldine:

It was.

Andrew Eggelton:

It was meant to be.

Renée Hasseldine:

Yeah, yeah. It was a turning point for both of us, I think in lots of ways.

Andrew Eggelton:

Yeah. It was.

Renée Hasseldine:

In other ways because you moved to Melbourne where it’s too cold in winter.

Andrew Eggelton:

That’s it. Well, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Renée Hasseldine:

It’s 40 degrees here today in Melbourne people, so he needs to just suck it up.

Andrew Eggelton:

It is. This is my third, to be honest. This is actually my third change of clothing today, yeah.

Renée Hasseldine:

I’m so glad this is not smell-O-vision.

Andrew Eggelton:

So, from smell-O-vision to step four. See, I’m keeping us on track. I’m really good at this now.

Renée Hasseldine:

He’s really good at this now. It used to be the other way around, it’s good. So, you told me to loosen up a bit and just go with the flow and I told you to have a system to come back to as the framework.

Andrew Eggelton:

That’s it, that’s it.

Renée Hasseldine:

Look at that much. Match made in heaven. Systemized them humanised. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Sorry.

Andrew Eggelton:

Perfect. Step four. Step four, what I learned is that I was creating presenters who were very good. But I noticed many weren’t still getting new opportunities and experiences and I was going, “Okay, what is the trick here?” What I discovered is that they were fundamentally staying the same person, making the same decisions, thinking the same thing, having the same thoughts, so therefore their opportunities and experiences stayed the same. If you’re making the same decisions and taking the same actions as yesterday, you’re going to get yesterday tomorrow.

Real simple. So, I started working on something I call expansion. Expansion, now being a really big part of what I teach and the experiences that I create through my workshops and trips. Expansion is creating and moving into the person you need to be that can have those experiences and opportunities, right? You’ve got what you’ve got now because of who you are. It’s really simple, so, so simple. Therefore, if you’re making your decisions and taking actions as your self and your greatness, you are then moving to you and your greatness.

So, I’ll make this really simple. I’ll only use a really easy number. Really easy number. We’re putting making hundreds of thousands of subconscious decisions a day, but let’s just pretend it’s 100 okay. If I’m making 99 decisions a day based on who I am now, what I currently know, I’m going to get 99% of what I had today, tomorrow.

If I’m making one decision as my me, myself, and my greatness, I’m automatically getting 1% of me and my greatness already. I have become that person fundamentally. So, when you get to a point where you constantly breaking the habit of just being you, the habit of who you are now. When that starts to turn to like a 60 40 or even more and you’re constantly making the decisions as you and your greatness, you have stepped into that person.

You’ve stepped into that person. I use this tool for when I need the break that. Whenever I’m challenged, whenever I’m going what experiences do I want in 2020. I want to run a retreat in Mexico, two in Bali, one in Europe and Mexico. I want half a day. We would take a break and we ride horses and become Cowboys. Cool. So who do I need to become?

Renée Hasseldine:

The vegans just shutting up.

Andrew Eggelton:

Who do I need to become? Riding horses. Riding horses. Not eating horses. Riding them.

Renée Hasseldine:

Did you get consent from the horse?

Andrew Eggelton:

Yes, yes, yes.

This is not a vegan debate. Who do I need to be? who is me who is capable of drawing those people to better fly all over the world to Mexico to have this experience, to become a world-class presenter in that space, to expand and have this experience. I need to be fundamentally different by the time I get there. So, all of my decision making now needs to become from Andrew who’s capable of that. Not Andrew now.

So, I just use this whenever I’m making decisions or taking actions. I just go in one year’s time from the day when I’m already in my greatness. How do I act or react right now? I do that for everything to answering emails, to speaking to clients, to sales calls, to how I react to things on stage. It’s just like in one year’s time, I don’t have to go through the whole sentence anymore. So, it breaks up how I would have done it and I’ve answered it immediately from my greatness. Therefore, I have become myself and my greatness at that point.

Andrew Eggelton:

In one year’s time from today.

Renée Hasseldine:

Yep.

Andrew Eggelton:

When I am already in my greatness, how do I act or react right now?

Renée Hasseldine:

Nice.

Andrew Eggelton:

The more I’m doing this, the faster my exponential growth. This is what I use when I go right. I’m going to go speak in London, but I don’t know anybody. I’m going to to speak in L.A. and New York, but I don’t know anybody. I want to run a retreat and sell it out in Portugal. Where people are going to fly from all other rural to who have never met me before.

This just this, in my greatness, when I make these decisions, it’s already sold. So, I’m not worried about the energy of what if no one turns up. I know the energy of it’s going to sell out because I’m amazing because in one year’s time and I’m on my greatness and I am amazing, this is what they’re buying into. Not me just now, me in one year’s time. So, if their energy is not worried about the scarcity, losing the money or worst case scenario will anyone come farm that energy. I’m not playing a big game. I’m playing the same game except the one that has book a beautiful resort. Do you know what I mean? It’s different. I have to do everything as though that is already full.

Renée Hasseldine:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yep. And you are the master. Because I remember when we first met, one of the early things that I said to you was like, I’ve never met anyone else who fills forward fast like you. You just like you say yes, you lock in a retreat in Portugal in a year’s time and you will fill it and it’s like most people would sit on their ass and dream about one day I’m going to run a retreat in Portugal and never see them think about that for 10 years before they actually even take the first step. And you just go idea, boom, do it, go, happening.

Andrew Eggelton:

That idea took me just over 30 seconds. From thinking it on the beach with a glass of Rosette to actioning it. I put it on Facebook. Three people came back and said, “Oh yeah, sounds a good homecoming. And I went, “Okay, now I need a venue.” My next post was the venue. The venue popped up. Absolutely what I asked for. So, within the space of like two minutes, I had the venue paid for plus had found it. And that I sold that out and also Bali.

And you know what the crazy thing is here, only one person out of 20 people asked me, “What am I going to learn?” How cool is that? Everybody else just went, “I don’t care. I don’t care what you’re teaching. It just feels right. I know you’re going to do the right thing.” And they’ve walked away like some of the testimonials were that was the best week of my whole life.

Renée Hasseldine:

That’s awesome.

Andrew Eggelton:

And the beautiful thing is we’re making this up. As I go were more making this up as we go aren’t we?

Renée Hasseldine:

Some of us are a little more planned out than that.

Andrew Eggelton:

If I plan, like for example, I’ll explain, so if I plan now what I’m going to teach in November next year. If, I plan out what I’m going to teach in Mexico next year, then I would be lying because what I’m going to learn and experience and go through and dig down those layers, was layers unique perspective. I’m going to be a completely different human being and I will turn up there playing a completely different game. So, there was no way. The content that I tell you I’m going to create now is going to be valid in 12 months time or 11 months time. It’s impossible.

Andrew Eggelton:

If I’m exponentially growing and expanding and becoming that man in my greatness, which is always just a year ahead of me, right? You’re always moving into it, then it’s impossible for… this is a beautiful thing is I don’t, I know I don’t have to have my stuff sorted because in a month time I will be thinking completely different, which will give me new thoughts. And those new thoughts will help me understand what it is that I need for this next part of my life or this next retreat. So, I don’t need to worry about not having that now because as I change, my thoughts change. That was pretty deep right then.

Renée Hasseldine:

I’m just like, but how does that fit into your signature system or is your signature system changing every time you present?

Andrew Eggelton:

My signature system, the like the heart changed from heart-brain. The more I understand it, I love no change of state. I love heat the heart-brain. I love embody, I love expansion. What’s missing now? Is I’ve just taken out step five. It will always evolve. It’ll always evolve and it’s funny because I’m just trademarking at the moment.

Andrew Eggelton:

Of course the person who’s trade, is going, “No, you need to stick with the same one.” And I’m like, “This is going to be challenging.” Every time you’d more trademark it’s going to cost you X amount of dollars and you are poor. This is going to be costly. It’s the sizzle. But as soon as you settle and keep digging and keep going and exploring, and I’m obsessed with what I do, it changes because I give you knowledge.

Renée Hasseldine:

There you go. All right, so we’ve got the four. So, that’s it. You said the fifth one’s not there now.

Andrew Eggelton:

The fifth one is not there.

Renée Hasseldine:

So that’s it. We’ve got our four.

Andrew Eggelton:

That’s it.

Renée Hasseldine:

All right, good. That seems like a good spot to wrap it up or we’ll be here for a week.

Andrew Eggelton:

We could be, I’ve got a plane to catch.

Renée Hasseldine:

You’ve got a plane to catch, I’ve got children to pick up from school and it’s 40 degrees, so I’m not expecting them to walk home today.

Andrew Eggelton:

You’re a good mom Renée you’re a good mum.

Renée Hasseldine:

I don’t know how much heart is there? How much heart is there in that? Look at me mother of the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m amazing. I’m amazing. All right. So, Egg If people want to find out more about who you are and what you do, where should they go?

Andrew Eggelton:

A good place to go is the Heart of Presenting and I do an amazing Facebook live challenge in there. I think we had-

Renée Hasseldine:

So, he’s talking about a Facebook group there people called the Heart of Presenting.

Andrew Eggelton:

… Facebook group, The Heart of Presenting and AndrewEggelton.com is a good place too.

Renée Hasseldine:

Awesome. Brilliant. Thank you so much for being on the show. You rock.

Andrew Eggelton:

Thank you, Renée. Thank you so do you.

Renée Hasseldine:

Miss your face.

Andrew Eggelton:

Thank you. Catch up, catch up when we get back.

Renée Hasseldine:

Yeah, sounds good. Sounds good.

Andrew Eggelton:

All right, my friend.

Renée Hasseldine:

All right We’ve been listening to her, Andrew Eggelton. Isn’t he awesome? Do you love him? Yeah you do. I’m Renée Hasseldine and you’re listening to Leveraged and Loving it. Talk to you next week.

 


renee-b&W webRenée Hasseldine works with coaches, experts & thought leaders to turn what is in their brilliant minds into powerful signature systems using visual models. Her knack for extracting and unpacking thoughts and turning them into unique intellectual property is sheer genius.

Renée is the author of the best-selling book ‘Share Your Passion’, she is the host of the ‘Leveraged and Loving It’ podcast and a panel member on The Business Playroom TV.

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